E284 Julie Shtenda: Accounting Manager @ US Company

Episode 297 January 10, 2022 00:46:45
E284 Julie Shtenda: Accounting Manager @ US Company
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E284 Julie Shtenda: Accounting Manager @ US Company

Jan 10 2022 | 00:46:45

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Julie Shtenda is an Accounting manager in an American trucking company. Born in Stryi, in the Lviv region, and currently living with her boyfriend in Kyiv, Julie graduated from Kyiv Polytechnic Institute with the specialization of electronic and information technologies of cinematography and audiovisual systems. And she worked as an operator of the call center at Wizz air flying company.

Her hobbies include skiing, reading, mostly fiction books and fantasy, as well as dancing. She visited 10 countries. And all her friends compare her to Monica (from the TV series Friends).

Instagram: @shtenda

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Julie Shtenda 0:00 Okay, first of all, I don't think I believe in soulmates. I think that every person no matter how you match it each other, you need to work hard on every relationship. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 0:32 With broadcast shows that Ukraine is not what foreigners see on television. Together, we will break all the stereotypes about Ukrainians, so that when the flag of Ukraine is lifted anywhere in the world, everyone will know Ukraine, and its unique culture because today, Ukraine has a dynamic new generation that will change the world. Hello, my name is Aziz and I have a deep connection with Ukraine. My grandfather volunteered in 1987, to help liquidate the Chernobyl chemical radiation because he believed in humanity, he was a real hero for me, and even though he struggled with cancer after that, for the rest of his life, he always told me many great things about Ukraine, and its people. Then, from 2018 to 2019. For two years, I began working with UNICEF in Ukraine to help build orphanages for Ukrainian children. And thank you all so much for the support. More than 285 people participated in this project for Ukraine. From the vice president of the Helen modeling group, the Vice Chancellor of the ugcc church, the president of the Erasmus student network, give the president of the World Trade Center give to students from the FLEX program, Ukraine, Global Scholars United World College, Harvard, and Minerva schools at KGI to the United Nations, to interns at the Ukrainian parliament, and at the Canadian Parliament to top 1% students in Ukraine. But not only them. This project is for all Ukrainians, from all backgrounds, so if you wish to participate, send me a message on Instagram at Aziz dot future and join the telegram channel. Key of future My goal is to make interviews with hundreds of Ukrainians and the world is listening. This podcast is already top 50 In the United Kingdom, France, Switzerland and Monaco top 25 In Austria, Germany, Canada, Russia and Poland, top 15 in Australia, Italy, Spain, and Dubai, a top 10 In Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, South Korea, Singapore, and many other places because this is now officially the number one podcast on Apple about Ukraine. Together we will break the stereotypes. Together, we will help all other countries discover and respect the greatness of Ukrainian people. And this good reputation will support the development of Ukraine, creating more opportunities for every Ukrainian to have a better life. So let's begin. My guest today is Julie stand up. Julie is an accounting manager in an American Trucking Company. Born in three in the live region, and currently living with her boyfriend NKU. Julie graduated from Kyiv Polytechnic Institute with the specialization of electronic and information technologies of cinematography and audio visual systems. And she worked as an operator of the call center at with air flying company. Her hobbies include skiing, reading, mostly fiction books and fantasy, as well as dancing. She visited 10 countries and all her friends compare her to Monica from the TV series Friends. Julie loves pizza and sushi. And her favorite quote is, the whole meaning of life is to become the person you are destined to be by Oprah Winfrey. Julie, how are you today? Julie Shtenda 4:38 Hello, as he's great. And I just wanted to say thank you for such an opportunity to be interviewed for this podcast. I loved it. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 4:47 You're welcome. And thank you so much for the kind words they mean a lot to me and since we're speaking Emotionally, I want to begin in a more emotional way. So you Julie When you want to feel alive to experience your favorite emotions, what do you like to do? Julie Shtenda 5:08 Well, first of all, there are many things I like to do. But first of all, I listen to my favorite music. And if the situation allows that I like to dance it, of course, there are so many music in the world. And I cannot tell you as a fan, the favorite general that I'm listened to, but I do like dancing to different music. I also like speaking with my friends, it fills me with a positive energy. I like seeing all my friends are happy with a smile, was in a good mood. And it really fills me and cheers me up. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 5:50 I love that answer. So music, dancing to music whenever there is the opportunity, communicating and exchanging energy with friends, as well as seeing your friends happy, smiling, satisfied. Is this correct? Yeah. 100%. You know, to me, music is like a miracle. Like, you hear something, and it just plays a chord to our emotions in a fantastic way. But tell me, how do you experience music in your body? And how does it translate into expression of dancing and movement? I know that sounds very theoretical, but it's you your experience. When music comes? Do you feel it like vibrations? Do you feel memories from the past? Where similar chords or melodies were heard? Or something? And then how is it? How do you translate it in the right into the right dance moves? Julie Shtenda 6:50 Well, great question. I think first of all, when I'm not feel like dancing, I'm just on my way to work and just listening to the music, it feels me it. It feels to me like something worm in my heart. And with some memories I had before. And with some dreams, I wanted to become true. I'm like living a different life, I can create my own universe where I can be anyone and anything I can meet and other people famous people I can go to and other countries in my dreams. And it fills me with so positive energy that I can feel that anything can be true. And when it comes to dancing, it's feels like vibration in my body. Like, even my boyfriend says that. I don't know how you do this, but you're feeling the music, you know how to move to a different gender. And it's like, it's unfamiliar. To me. It's every time it's another movements, another, another gesture, but it's every time it's new, and it's really feeling. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 8:20 I love that. And I love actually, that you use the past, the present and the future. And that description of how you sense and experience music. So in the present, it fills your heart with warmth. And the past you remember the memories and experiences. But a lot of it is about the future, creating a universe of your dreams, where you are meeting with some celebrities traveling to cool places and countries, interacting with new people and having a life that is dreamy. And when it comes to dance, for some reason, even if the genre is new, and you're not experienced that you can dance in the appropriate way because you can feel the music in an interesting way as your boyfriend said. Is this correct? Yeah. Julie Shtenda 9:14 You got me right. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 9:16 Tell me about those dreams or celebrate these exotic locations and fun times. Julie Shtenda 9:24 Well, it's really personal to me. I cannot tell you everything about it because it's really my emotions. It's something just for me. It's my universe where I can be anyone and anything but I always dream about happy life. You know, happiness for me. It's about small things. It's about smile of my mother. Selling I love you to the people I love and hearing back it's about At some celebration, the birthday party, the wedding party, I hope it will become true. And I hope it will be the way I want it to be a one I dream about it to be. It's always when I dream about going to a different countries I know about these countries already because I read about them. And I, it's always with the people. It's not about me. It's always connected with the people I know, with the people I love. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 10:34 I noticed actually that told me about people, how do you experience them? Do you experience them as like some energy in your body and the right vibe of the person? I noticed you pay a lot of attention to the faces and how people look the smile on their faces that is happy? I don't know, if you pay attention to the eyes to very much. I mean, is it about their life stories, common views and values that bring them closer to you? Or how do you experience people that makes it such a very important part of your life? Julie Shtenda 11:14 Well, I think communication is one of the most important part part of my life. First of all, well, you mentioned about eyes, I think that you can see everything you can see a soul through people's eyes. And I don't really trust people who are not looking into my eyes. While we are having a conversation. It's really important to me to see how people react to the people's emotion. That's why I don't really like the text messaging or the audio messaging we have with our close friends with my close friends who always use the video message. Because it's never, it can be sometimes that he cannot share the information you want to share in person because you're in different cities, or you have some extra news you want to share. Now, it's it's needed to be done now. And we always use the video chat for them, because it's important to see our face defeat to see our emotions. It's the first thing the second thing it says that I wanted to mention is that I really need people in my life. I don't know how to explain that correctly. But I always say that no matter do you like the person, or Indian, do you have some that person have some habits you don't like or you don't want to communicate with him, it's always, always you have to in this person has some things that you can learn. So even if it's, you don't like this person he might have had in the past some memories, some good advice you you can listen to, he might have some really good advice for you. And you might listen to Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 13:36 thank you actually, that's really cool and open minded and tolerant and a lot of curiosity there. So if I understood you correctly, it's very important for you to see the faces of the people. The emotions, even through FaceTime, or video chat, are not only texting, and the eyes of the people, they show you their souls so that you can feel them, as well as always seeing the positive and the potential for new insight and new lessons from any person, even if you don't like them for whatever superficial or even deeper reason. They are a unique person with a unique life story and therefore, they have some answer or insight or lesson that can enrich your life. So don't neglect that never did I understand that right? Julie Shtenda 14:31 Yeah, yeah. And I think all of people should consider that. They don't, they shouldn't be angry for people. They're not like them. They are just need to listen to their stories, to listen to their life story to listen to their advice. And if they want to, they might listen to them. If they not it will be just you know, and Another, another person. Okay, I met the person I know it. I know their dreams I know about theirs, their view on the life. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 15:11 And it's cool. Thank you. And when it comes to books, whether fantasy or any of those kinds of books in the characters, do you try to dissect and feel them and understand them in a similar way that you try with people? Or is it different? Julie Shtenda 15:30 Well, when it comes to book, it's always interesting what the main character will do in this situation? What feeling it's always interesting to reading about feeling he is lighting in that moment. But of course, I'm thinking about how would I react in this particular situation? How would I do? How would I act? I noticed Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 15:58 emotions are feeling and feelings are essential in your life. So imagine this, if you could live without emotions and feelings? What would be missing from your life? Julie Shtenda 16:11 Oh, I guess? I can't even imagine it. It's a really tricky question. And I really don't know the answer for that. Cuz emotions are everything to me. I even set a goal to myself, I don't know maybe about I've turned 21. I've turned the goal to myself that I need to tell to all people I really love to my boyfriend, to my family, to my close friends, that I love them. Every time I ending conversation with them. It's really important to me to feel this emotions, and to share it with them. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 16:56 No, no, no. Tell me more. How did you come to this decision? What motivated it when you didn't do it before? What was missing? Maybe another person two can learn and at the end of every conversation with someone they love, they will say it because of the same reasons. You do? Julie Shtenda 17:16 Well, actually, yes, I guess. Well, I became became older. It was the first reason the second reason I think I found the right person for myself. I started feeling the emotions I haven't experienced before. And I didn't really thought that it might ever happen to me. And I don't know why I didn't do this before. Maybe I was too shy. Or too stupid. I didn't know because of the teenage age. But then it just in that moment it feel it felt so right. Even with my mother having a conversation and ending up with every arrow every conversation was her was I love you. In this feeling me was such a worm emotions when she says it back. And I know that it is really it now since since I've been started starting doing that. I know that now it's really important to her to feel it to hear that from me every time. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 18:27 Thank you. You mentioned you met a person that gave you new emotions you didn't feel before? Well in with previous boyfriends or any life partners or something like that. What did you feel? How was it? And what are these new emotions or extra ordinary feelings that are new now so that you can compare it and do you consider that a soulmate? Or like ultimate love? Or what do you call it? Julie Shtenda 18:58 Okay, first of all, I don't think I believe in soulmates. I think that every person no matter how you match it each other, you need to work hard on every relationship. Because it's really important for both of you to feel safe to feel comfortable and to feel needed in this relationships, comparing to my previous relationships, I cannot say they were horrible or something like that. It was just the person was wrong. It wasn't right for me. It was a good friend. He was a good student, a good person, but he wasn't righteous for me. You know, we have we have different views on our future. We have different feeling We have different with, we feel emotions differently. That's why it wasn't the right person for me. And now I'm feeling myself in this role current relationships. As a partner, I have a really life partner supportive, hard, working, loving, feeling the energy, if feeling me was a good energy, talking, talk, talking with him on the so many subjects in into teaching me even we teach each other because we are so unfair. We are like mirrors, we are showing each other another angle of life. And it's I think it's Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 20:48 perfect. I like that teaching each other learning from each other. And even before you mentioned even about people you don't like you can learn something from them. Tell me more about this? Did you always have this attitude of self development and growth? What does it give you? When you learn things? What does it give you, your future or your emotions? Let's explore this part of your personality. Julie Shtenda 21:17 I don't think I did it ever. For my whole life. It also came for me in just in one moment. I just felt that I want to explore people, I want to know more about them about each of them. Because you can learn anything from any person. Really, if you will duck deeper. It's not just about Hello, how are you? No, that won't help. No, I you need to Dick like to experience it, you need to you need to have this energy. So the person once wanted to open for you, the he wants to share some secrets with you, he wants to share some advice with you. So it's really really important for me to have this, this connection with other people to know about them more to know about their experience to know about their thoughts. And it's really helped me because I'm an eye. For example, when I meet new person, I you don't know whether it ends with close friends or whether it ends up with enemies. But it's always really exciting. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 22:45 I love it. And I like that what you mentioned that you don't know whether it ends up with close friends or it ends up with enemies, while without dramatizing it and speaking about enemies. What is the difference that did you notice about people who become your close friends maybe in their values, their energy, their love for music, the way they express emotions? Maybe they're dancing all the time, randomly in the car and the street? I don't know or they're totally different to you. So you're learning from each other. But what seems to be common with people who become the close friends of Jubilee compared to people who become acquaintances or enemies or anything like that, Julie Shtenda 23:31 it's really top question for me, because none of my friends are like each other. I think that the one that may be emotions may be how they react because all of them are energetic, really energetic people, they and I can share my thoughts to all of them. I know that they are very friendly, but when it comes to some supportive things, they will always have a minute to share with me, they will always have a time for me. They will always find a spare time in their shadow to have a conversation to listen to me and so do I. So we like we like sharing feelings with each other. So I think that the one that combines all my friends, Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 24:29 thank you. So if I understood correctly, they're energetic. They are supportive. There you can share anything with them and you share with each other without hiding or pretending or doing anything insincere or feeling shy from them. Is this correct? All right, right. And why do your friends compare you to Monica from the TV series Friends? Julie Shtenda 24:57 Yeah, so it's a Because of the obsessive tiredness and cleaning, and the way I react in some games, the way I play the games, I always need to be the first, it's my goal, to be better to be the best is the, the aim for me. And about that tightness in the, in, in my space. So, I am very logical person. And analyst. I'm a techie. So it's when it comes to I didn't, I didn't know how to explain, I think that the better way to explain how I act in life is telling you a bit more about going into a supermarket, I always have a list of products I need to buy, and they are put it on the list in the way I am entering the shop. So, I know that I will I will go to this shop to buy this product. So I will first enter the grocery. So I need this this and this from the grocery department, then I will go to the for milk. So I need the yogurt, the milk, and etc, the sour cream. And when it comes to pay for these products, when it comes to the cash box, I always sort products in the in the way they needed to be put it down in a package. So they need to be packed. So first of all, it will be potato some solid product and after that it will be an ice cream and some fruits, you know, so and it every thing in my life is organized. Everything in my apartment is on the right place. And I noticed any that could be put it in the wrong way. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 27:17 I have so many questions about that. But I want to begin first with your desire to be the best and your competitive attitude, at least in those games. Julie Shtenda 27:31 I didn't know I was just born like that I am very competitive person. I never I will never start a fight. Because of that. Of course, if I will lose a game of course, I will shake the hands and will say well done, I really honored to participate with such person as you. But because of the strong personality, I guess I need to be the first Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 28:00 Do you like this about yourself? And how does it affect your life in your opinion? Julie Shtenda 28:07 Well, not always just to tell the truth because sometimes it scares people. Especially boyfriends, because when you're a strong woman, you need to every woman wants to have a man that is stronger than him or her not in a physical way No. in an emotional way in, in life. So it's really hard for me, it was really hard for me to find a proper man for myself. That was I think the main in finding a person for me. So it's not really it's not every time it's not very cool for me to be the first to be the best. Sometimes it's annoying and other people sometimes it's annoying me but I can stop it. I really can't control it. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 29:07 Can you tell me more about that, that you are competitive and it scared some of potential boyfriends and you said you want a man who is emotionally stronger to you? What does it mean? If you want to be the best? Does it mean like when you are crying or some language? I guess not because in many ways you describe yourself to feel emotion so deeply and your love emotion so but yet you said I am a logical person. I am a techie which is the opposite. So I don't understand how both sides of your personality are growing and living together, as well as explain how your competitive side drives away potential boyfriends and the kind of strong thing in the in your boyfriend that you found. Julie Shtenda 29:59 Oh well First of all, I am not competitive in the relationships. If it's right person for me, I don't want to have some competition. Because I want to have a family, I want to build a relationships, I want to have this person beside me not having competition with him. I just want him to be by my side, I just want him to be maybe cleverer than me, maybe I want him to have some things he can teach me, I want him to be the person who can support me every time who can tell me what to do. Because I know what to do in this specific situation. But I also needed advice. And I need an IP advice, not just Well, as you think well do whatever you want, or, oh, yeah, the, you are thinking in the right way. Now I want to be heard, I want my person to listen to me. And I want to share, to share my emotions, and I want them to be listened. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 31:21 That's wonderful. And I like it. And I'm sure your boyfriend is always growing. Because otherwise you as someone who is growing, if he stopped, then at some point, there is no more learning possible. So I imagine you're both growing as a couple and constantly learning. Is this correct? Julie Shtenda 31:42 Yeah, and not even learning but also building. Cuz as I mentioned before, a relationship is the thing you need to work in. So you need to work on the relationship, you need to build everything that even if you have just a perfect boyfriend, it's for now, when you're both achieving something when you are both growing, when both of you are a strong person has a strong personality. It's needed to be done that you need to build this house, this relationship, you need to have a conversation with each other, you need to feel the energy of each other. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 32:29 Tell me more as if you give advice to other couples in the world how to build such a relationship? Because the way you describe it was a bit abstract. Julie Shtenda 32:41 Yeah, well, I'm forced first of all, there shouldn't be any resentments. Any offenses. So if you have something to tell, if you are feeling the person is not right, or if you're feeling upset with his actions, no need to have, you know, to, to remind him later, when he, when it's B when it comes to some disagreement. No, you need to tell it right in the face, you need to tell it why well, let's stop here. Let's discuss it. Let's, I don't I don't feel right, that you're acting this, I don't feel that I want you to act. To do to do this action, okay. I don't want to fight about it, I just want to discuss it. And I want that, my my person to hear it. And to make some conclusions of it. So I just, I'm saying that you need to talk about this, about this thing, or about his action or about my action. I also I am a person and I can be wrong in some places. So I always ask my boyfriend to tell me this. Tell them what's what's what you don't like. But tell me when it appears. Now when it comes to some disagreement, and you will remind Oh, and there's more and to couples a week you tell me you told me that and I really didn't like it. Now, it has to be discussed on the place. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 34:41 I love that maturity and wisdom in what you shared and how did you come to that conclusion and understanding is it from some couple in real life that you observed how they're doing it or the opposite? You saw a really bad relationship and then you thought I Don't want that and you paid attention to what they're doing wrong or is it from some relationship in a book or in a movie or a TV series that inspired so much maturity and wisdom and thought about the right way for couples to be and stay together? Julie Shtenda 35:19 Well, I cannot tell you the exact couple I, I like or if I'm inspired off, I think it's a combination of couple I met before, and the combination of gobble I've seen on the screen of TV series or a movie, I just, there are no a perfect couple. And there is no perfect person for you, you will never find the perfect one. But you need to find a person you are feeling yourself calm, filled with warm emotions. And then when you found when you found this person, you need to work really hard, so that your relationship will grow. And as you're becoming older, the relationships is becoming a mature, more mature, mature. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 36:19 Thank you. And I'm noticing you're speaking so much about warm emotions and your love to dance and music. So how are both sides of you? The techie side that is super logical, and you even sort and organize your shopping list, and everything and flow in with emotions, because usually, people who love emotions, they hate constraints or any rules or anything like that. And therefore they don't want organization, they want it to be free flowing, and chaos so that anything can go and there'll be surprised by new emotions, while people who are logical don't like emotions, because they can overwhelm them or mess up their plans or anything like that. So how are both sides of you existing? How do they cooperate? Or are they days where you're like the emotional Dulli and days where you're the Monica or two sides, like Jekyll and Hyde personality? Tell me all? Julie Shtenda 37:25 Well, sometimes most of my sides are disagreements, which is each other? Well, I'm trying to be logical to be techie, in a proper way. So I'm not logical in feelings with my close friends and my family. So it's never comes to logic, when you're talking about emotions you feel with your family. Because they're your family, there is no need to think about something you love them, they share your feelings, you're talking with them. And it's nothing to think about to tell the truth. And about feeling the emotion with a with strangers, it's really hard for me to open to somebody because I don't know the person in a right way. I don't know whether he can use this information to find a fight against me or whether he will be become my friend. So in this specific way, I'm it becomes to logic, because I won't open my heart to anybody that I don't know really well. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 38:50 Thank you. And did that happen with your current boyfriend? Was it like a feeling that you know him all your life from the first second? Or was it over time that you opened your heart to Him? Slowly bit by bit and you didn't even know that? It will be loved? But over time it grew into that? Julie Shtenda 39:11 Yes. second variant? For sure. As I told you before, I don't believe in soulmates I don't believe there is a specific person that is just for you. No, no, of course not. You need to well, when it came to this relationships, it started as a conversation was really smart man. I liked the way he saw I liked the way he explained his opinion. I liked the way he shared things he knows and emotions he feels. I like the way he described his lifetime and then it comes to center Then it comes to relationships and only then it became and grew to love. Cuz he, when I started to know more and more about him, I've started to falling in love with him, Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 40:15 then I'm wondering, are you one of the people that loves people's brains more than anything? So let me ask you this question and give me like your most honest answer. Yeah, a guy could be like your perfect handsome man. 100%. But he's stupid. And another guy. He's not like your type at all. But his brain is like, perfect. Which one? Would you like be more interested in? Julie Shtenda 40:44 brainy? For sure, brainy. I would tell that not because I'm aligned or not? Because I want two people to think about me that I am so cool or anything? No, it's because you mentioned the type, the physical type of a person, I don't have it. Seriously, none of my boyfriends are similar to each other, none of them. The one is really short. The second is really tall. They the one is blonde. The second is black. Seriously, none of them are like each other. So it's really, really important to me that he would be with a good sense of humor. He would be clever. He would be honest with me, he would be the person I would fall in love with not sensing the physical connection. But But brainy. Good, because that's the thing that cheers me up that this thing that even I don't know how to tell that properly. But even that the thing that turns me on a man, being brainy, being strong, being clever. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 42:08 I love that. And I see it for you, too, that you're also brainy. Although, of course you want your man to be even more. So right now, when you notice a lot of the people around you. I'm not saying Ukraine in general, but like humanity? Or what would you say, would be a great piece of advice or lesson about life that you understood that if they understood too, it can make their life better? So you can give this advice? Julie Shtenda 42:40 Well, I would say just tell you love the people you really love. It's really important to end up with every conversation, saying I'm like, I love you. You never know when it will be the last chance to share this emotion with people you really take care of. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 43:02 You said you never know when it could be the last chance to share that emotion. What is your relationship with time now? Do you feel that like you want to extract every experience from every moment because life is too short? Or did you have some experience where things ended? And you hope it will last forever? The good times? And it gave you this lesson? Or where does it come from? Julie Shtenda 43:31 Seriously? I don't know. It just It just happened. I just fell right to tell my mom I love her one moment. And then I wanted to share this emotions with my father. He was I just remember his first. The first time I told him on the phone on a conversation that I love you. And he's not really emotional person at all. And he's like, oh, oh, ha, yeah. Me too. And now in two years, when I tell him in a conversation every time I tell him I love you. He says, Yeah, Barney, I love you too. And it is so cute. And I love the people changing when I when you really tell them that you love them. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 44:25 I agree. And it's something really powerful. I love this about you. And I want to say thank you for sharing your emotional side. You say you're a techie I didn't perceive that. Not at all logical or that stoic kind of person you opened your heart and that was wonderful. Thank you, Julie for such a conversation. I feel blessed and honored and if people want to learn more about you, to follow you, what is the best social network to do that? and any, like thing to say at the end just to celebrate this moment, because you never know, it could be the last like if the world ends tomorrow? Julie Shtenda 45:13 Well, first of all, you can follow me on Instagram by username, tender, just like my last name. And the second thing I just wanted to end this conversation in the good way, saying that I'm so honored and I'm so pleased to you asked me to have this interview with you. And I really wanted to say say thank you for choosing Ukraine, our country as a main topic for your podcast. Because Ukrainian are weary, emotional, very clever, and very hard working people. I love you, Ukraine's, Ukraine. Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 46:00 Thank you so much. And I love how you ended the conversation with Ukraine. I love your Ukraine. So you're practicing the principles that you speak about, and I really respect that. Thank you, Julie. You're wonderful. And I wish you a brilliant, blessed and bright day ahead. Julie Shtenda 46:22 Thank you. Thank you as is yours. You're a wonderful person and I'm really honored to be a part of this podcast.

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Oleg Bychek has 11 years of managerial experience. He is now the Director of Services & Operations at Metinvest Digital. He was the Country...

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